Additional Royal Descents For Anne Mauleverer & Richard Saltonstall

1) John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster (1340-1399), who had

Don Stone...

[etc.]

These are not in RD600 because it supplies only the "best" descent (from the
most recent monarch, and, I think, via the older child when there are
descents via more than one child).

Brad Verity...

Thanks for the explanation, Don. So the lines themselves are valid,
it's the structure of RD600 that kept them out of that work. Still
doesn't explain why they aren't in PA3, which has a structure
incorporating multiple lines of descent for each immigrant, but it's a
relief that the lines are valid.

Cheers, -------Brad

-- Don Stone

2) Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland (c.1379-1440), who had
3) Elizabeth Ferrers, Lady Greystoke, who had
4) Anne Greystoke (d. 1477) m. Sir Ralph Bigod of Settrington
(1410-1461), who had
5) Anne Bigod (d. 1531) m. William Conyers of Sockburn (d. 1490), who
had
6) Anne Conyers (d. before 1522) m. abt 1492 Sir William Mauleverer of
Wothersome (d. 1551), who had

Brad Verity...

I don't know which sources Cahiers used, but one may be the same as my
source (for Anne as daughter of William Conyers of Sockburn and Anne
Bigod). The Conyers of Sockburn 1558 Visitation pedigree was provided
by Sir George Conyers of Sockburn to Norroy King of Arms Lawrence
Dalton, and is printed in 'Visitations of the North' 1 (Surtees Soc.
122, 1912), pp. 136-142. It is a particularly detailed pedigree, with
quite a few supporting evidences. The relevant entry is:

"Wylliam Conyers weddyd Anne, doughtre to Raufe Bygot of Settryngton,
knight, and had issue Chrystopher, Raufe the ijd, George, Robert,
Roger, Rychard and Cutberte, late sheryf of the busshopryke; Anne the j
doughtre, Marye, Margaret, and Agnes the iijth doughtre."

Note that none of the above children are assigned spouses (save for son
and heir Christopher in the following entry), but at least one of them
(youngest son Cuthbert Conyers) did indeed marry, so it's likely that
no given spouses is not supposed to indicate that all of the above
children were unmarried.

7) Robert Mauleverer (d. 1541) m. 1524 Alice Markenfield (d. 1553), and
was ancestor of Richard Saltonstall of Mass. & Anne Mauleverer of N.J.

1) Elizabeth, Countess of Hereford, who had
2) Eleanor de Bohun, Countess of Ormond, who had
3) Pernel Butler, Lady Talbot, who (probably) had
4) Elizabeth Talbot, Lady Grey of Wilton, who had
5) Margaret Grey, Lady Darcy, who had
6) Philip Darcy, 6th Lord Darcy m. Eleanor Fitzhugh (desc. King John)
and had
7) Elizabeth Darcy m. Sir James Strangways and had
8) Eleanor Darcy m. Edmund Mauleverer of Wothersome (d. 1493/4), and
had

Brad Verity...

Yes, indeed, that is my mistake. Elizabeth Darcy and Sir James
Strangways were parents of

8) Eleanor Strangways, who married Edmund Mauleverer of Wothersome, who
died about 1493/4 (will dated 7 October 1488, proved 29 January 1494),
son of Sir Robert Mauleverer of Wothersome (dvp by 1463) and his wife
Joan (parentage unknown). The Mauleverers were lower on the gentry
social scale than the Strangwayses, and were eager for the match, which
is attested to in a letter that Edmund Mauleverer, uncle of the groom,
wrote later to his nephew, reminding the latter that he had prevented a
marriage between him and a daughter of John of Thwaytes, although 300
marcs had been proffered as her marriage portion, in order to make the
match of his nephew with "my right worshipfulle nece, doghter of my
reuerent and fulle worshipfulle maister, Syr Jamys Strangways, knyght."
[William Brown, 'Ingleby Arncliffe' in 'Yorkshire Archaeological
Journal' Vol. 16 (1902), p. 170 n. 1.] The Mauleverer/Strangways
marriage took place about 1454, when lands were settled on the couple
by Edmund's father and grandfather. [Ibid., p. 191.] In his will,
Edmund Mauleverer of Wothersome makes his "wyfe Elyenor" his principal
executor. [Ibid., p. 224.] The marriage is also confirmed by the
Strangways pedigree in the 1480-1500 Visitation ['Visitation of the
North' 3 (Surtees Soc. 144, 1930), p. 107], where a daughter of James
Strangways and Elizabeth Darcy is given as "Aleonora nupta Edmundo
Mauleurier".

9) Robert Mauleverer (d. 1501) m. Joan Vavasour and had

Brad Verity...

I don't know for certain. Does the following?

Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland had two daughters (A1 & B1) from
her first marriage and another daughter (C1) from her second:

A1) Elizabeth Ferrers, Lady Greystoke (1393-1434), had
A2) Anne Greystoke, Dame Bigod (d. 1477), who had
A3) Anne Bigod (d. 1531) m. William Conyers of Sockburn (d. 1490), and
had
A4) Anne Conyers (d. by 1522) m. Sir William Mauleverer (d. 1551) and
had
A5) Robert Mauleverer (d. 1541) m. Alice Markenfield (number B6 & C5
below)

B1) Mary Ferrers, Lady Neville of Oversley (1394-1458), had
B2) John Neville of Oversley (d. 1482), who had
B3) Joan Neville m. Sir William Gascoigne (d. 1463), and had
B4) Sir William Gascoigne (c.1450-1487) m. Margaret Percy (number C3
below), and had
B5) Dorothy Gascoigne m. Sir Ninian Markenfield (d. 1528), and had
B6) Alice Markenfield (d. 1553) m. Robert Mauleverer (number A5 above)

C1) Eleanor Neville, Countess of Northumberland (d. 1472), had
C2) Henry Percy, 3rd Earl of Northumberland (1421-1461), who had
C3) Margaret Percy m. Sir William Gascoigne (c. 1450-1487, number B4
above), and had
C4) Dorothy Gascoigne m. Sir Ninian Markenfield (d. 1528), and had
C5) Alice Markenfield (d. 1553) m. Robert Mauleverer (number A5 above)

Brad Verity...

The Conyerses of Sockburn, by the 15th century, were fairly distantly
related to the Conyerses of Hornby. Maybe there's a connection thru
Mary Eure, wife of Sir Christopher Conyers of Sockburn?

Cheers, ---------Brad

10) Sir William Mauleverer (d. 1551) m. Anne Conyers (number 6 above)

Brad Verity...

This is a muddle-up on the part of Cahiers. William Brown, in his
thorough 1902 article on the Mauleverers [YAJ Vol. 16], gives a
detailed pedigree of the family, starting with Robert Mauleverer in the
beginning of the 14th century, and ending with Thomas Mauleverer
(1718-1785). The parents of Sir William Mauleverer of Wothersome (born
by 1471; died 10 August 1551) were Robert Mauleverer of Wothersome
(died 10 March 1496) and his wife Joan, daughter of Sir Henry Vavasour
of Hazlewood & Joan Gascoigne. This is proven by Robert's IPM, taken
at York Castle 24 Oct. 1501, in which his heir was returned as his son
William, age 30 and upwards.

Cahiers is correct about Sir William's second wife Joan Strangways.
She was the daughter of Sir James Strangways of West Harsley (d. 16
Dec. 1521) and Alice Scrope of Masham. Joan married 1st at West
Harsley (licence 20 January) 1489, John Bigod of Settrington and
Bainton, who died by 1515. She married 2nd at Wothersome (licence 7
November) 1522, Sir William Mauleverer. In the spring of 1523-4 she
and Sir William had to get a Papal dispensation to legalize their
marriage as they were related in the third and fourth degrees, which is
further proof of Sir William's descent from Eleanor Strangways:

Sir James Strangways and Elizabeth Darcy had a son (A1) and a daughter
(B1),

A1) Sir Richard Strangways of West Harsley (d. 1488), who had
A2) Sir James Strangways of West Harsley (d. 1521), who had
A3) Joan Strangways (d. 1546) m. Sir William Mauleverer

B1) Eleanor Strangways (d. after 1494) m. Edmund Mauleverer, who had
B2) Robert Mauleverer (d. 1496), who had
B3) Sir William Mauleverer (d. 1551) m. Joan Strangways

Joan Strangways, Dame Mauleverer, died 15 November 1546, and was buried
at Bardsey on 26 November. Sir William died 10 August 1551, was buried
at Bardsey 13 August, and his IPM was taken on 20 September 1551.

Brad Verity...

Because Sir william married again in November 1522.

Brad Verity...

I think it is incorrect. The evidence for the marriage, summed up by
Brown [YAJ Vol. 16, p. 194]: "On May 28, 7 Henry VII. (1492), Edmund
M.[auleverer, grandfather, died 1494], esq., granted to John Vavasour,
Richard Goldisburgh, John Hopton, Peter Bygod, Thomas Crawthorne, and
Edmund Thwaytes, certain lands, etc., in Ynggylby near Arnclyff, the
manor of Daylle Town, and lands in Bysshopton and Seynt Eleyn Awkland,
in Durham, 'ad intencionem et effectum quarundam indenturarum maritagii
inter dictum Edmundum M. et Robertum M.[auleverer, father, died 1496]
ex una parte, et Annam Conyers ex altera parte confectarum.' On the
authority apparently of this deed he is said to have married Anne,
daughter of William Conyers of Sockburn, and Anne his widow. This is
very probable, although there is no absolute proof of the fact. As I
have not been able to find any further mention of her it is likely she
died early, although as far as I can discover all his children were by
his first wife." The date of 1492 works well with the Conyers of
Sockburn chronology, with William Conyers of Sockburn, the bride's
father, dying on 8 September 1490, and his widow Anne Bigod surviving
until 1531. The pedigree of Mauleverer of Wothersome in the 1563
Visitation of Yorkshire (H.S.P. 16, 1881, p. 202) gives the wife of Sir
William and mother of his children as "Jane daughter of Conyers of
Sokeborne". So the family knew they were descended from the Conyerses
of Sockburn, they simply confused the first name (Joan/Jane) of Sir
William's second wife with that of his first (Anne).

Brad Verity...

Here is a full list of the children of Sir James Strangways of West
Harsley, Speaker of the House of Commons 1461, which are all laid out
in the Strangways pedigree of the 1480-1500 Visitation of the North
(Surtees Soc. 144, 1930), pp. 106-109:

Sir James married 1st, Elizabeth Darcy, and had 11 sons and 5
daughters:
1) Sir Richard Strangways, son and heir, married Elizabeth Neville
2) James Strangways of Ormsby and Sneton, married Anne Conyers,
daughter of Robert Conyers of Ormsby
3) William Strangways, died in infancy
4) Philip Strangways
5) George Strangways, a cleric
6) Christopher Strangways
7) Henry Strangways
8) John Strangways
9) Robert Strangways
10) Thomas Strangways, died in infancy
11) Thomas Strangways
1) Margaret Strangways, married 1st, John Ingleby of Ripley; married
2nd, Richard, Lord Welles and Willoughby
2) Eleanor Strangways, married Edmund Mauleverer of Wothersome
3) Joan Strangways, died young
4) Joan Strangways, died unmarried
5) Elizabeth Strangways, married Marmaduke Clervaux of Croft

Sir James married 2nd, Elizabeth Eure, and had further issue, 2 sons
and 1 daughter:
12) Ralph Strangways, died young
13) Edward Strangways, doctor of the law
6) Felice Strangways, married William Aske of Aske

Brad Verity...

Hope this helps.

Cheers, ----------Brad

Cheers, ------------Brad