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Complete Peerage Addition: Iseult de Sulney, mother of Sir Elias



Tue, 21 Nov 2006 04:35:03 GMT soc.genealogy.medieval
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Louise Staley...
What an interesting find posted by Douglas Richardson of a lawsuit
concerning the wife of the wife of Ralph Daubeney. The identifaication
of the mother of Sir Helié Daubeney as Iseult Sulney raises an
interesting question.

There is a Cornish family, named Sulney/Soligny with links to the
Willingtons of this period.

**HIGHLY SPECULATIVE GENEALOGY FOLLOWS**

1-Son Soligny
+
|--2-Emma Soligny
| +Jordan Champernoun d. Bef 1214
| |--3-William Champernoun b. Abt 1203, d. After 1230, s.p.m.
| +Eva Blancminster heiress
| |--4-Joan Champernoun heiress d. After 1286
| +Ralph Willington d. Between Apr 1255 and Jul 1260
| |--5-Ralph Willington b. Abt 1239, d. Bef 15 Oct 1294
| +Juliana Lumene Heiress d. After 1299
| |--6-Henry Willington d. 2 Oct 1323
|--2-Isolda Soligny d. Bef 1265
+Andrew Cardinham d. Abt 1253
|--3-Isolda Cardinham b. Abt 1235, d. Between 3 Nov 1276 and 24
| Jan 1277
+Thomas Tracy d. Between 1266 and 1268
+William Ferrers d. Between 1269 and 1270

As you can see my details are sketchy and sources not apparent in my
database, however I wonder if in fact Iseult Sulney fits into the
Soligny family where Isolda/Iseult is a known woman's name?

Similarly, from the lawsuit (Source:

1-Son Soligny
+
|--2-John Soligny
| +
| |--3-Joldewyn Soligny
| +
| |--4-Isolda Soligny
| +Ralph Daubeney b. Abt 1214, d. Bef 25 Jan 1292
| |--5-Philip Daubeney d. , s.p.
| |--5-Sir Helié Daubeney Baron Daubeney 1st b. Between 1261
| | and 1264, Guernsey, CHI, d. Bef 8 Apr 1305, (Guernsey,
| | CHI)
| |--5-Eleanor Daubeney
|--2-Ralph Soligny
+
|--3-Andrew Soligny d. Bef 7 Jan 1260, s.p.

The too neat solution would be to say Isolda Soligny married Andrew
Cardinham first, he died about 1253 then she married Ralph Daubeney and
had at least three sons and perhaps a daughter Eleanor before she died
before 1265 leaving Ralph free to marry Isabel unknown.

As I said this is speculation, I have nothing more in terms of sources
to add but it is interesting isn't it?
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