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Thu, 6 Jul 2006 20:59:35 +0100 uk.people.silversurfers
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datasmog...
naff quality video taken with a cellphone this evening.

pmj...
ray, did you know that having any stuff *before* the DOCTYPE
Declaration in the HTML of a Web Page (even a
as on that Page) can cause the Page to Display/Render unpredictably
in some Web Browsers (such as Mozilla IE5 Mac & IE6 Win) ?

Tickettyboo...
I peeked to see what sort of file it was ( not got QT installed) The
source made me giggle :-)

pmj...
Yep!
One of ray's little jokes!
:-)

I thought you said you had Downloaded VirtualDub?

Or was it TMPGEnc?

Won't either of them Convert Apple QuickTime .MOV Files to various
other Formats, so you can see them?

& what about that "QuickTime Alternative" that some people have
Posted about?


~~Linda~~...
Hehe, you'll get a fly landing on your tongue!


Jackie...
A good video Ray - those squirrels manage to find a way!


Rabbit...
OK so sometimes my QTime jbexes and sometimes it doesn't, this time it
didn't but what I did get was unusual. I got a white box ( as per a normal
QT box) with music but the box displayed the HTML of the web page :-(

Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +...
Yep! I got the same - just a white box wiuth some accompanying music. :(

Tyke...
A broken QT link showing here.

Laughed at the source though ;-)

datasmog...
Unfortunately Internet Explorer for Windows got broken by Microsoft, and

pmj...
Yep, maybe...
But that *isn't* actually the reason why some people are having probs
with that Apple QuickTime .MOV File on that Page...

its ability to display a simple embedded QT movie file is now

pmj...
Again, that's not the actual prob with that particular .MOV File on
that Page...

compromised.
The workaround involves Javascript and/or Active X and is not 100%
failsafe for all browsers.

pmj...
Yes, IE does use an (Apple) ActiveX Control to Display Apple QuickTime
.MOV Files on Web Pages, but again, that isn't the prob with that File.

Since most sensible people have the later turned off, and many have the

pmj...
Most people, surely *don't* actually have JavaScript turned off?
Especially ordinary people using Internet Explorer.

former disabled, I used neither in the page. Don't blame me.

pmj...
Yes, they *can* blame you! (see below)...
:-)

Just hope IE7 is more standards compliant than the current lash up.

Oh look, a flying pig.

pmj...
LOL!
Yep - From what I can gather so far IE 7 is not very much more
"Standards Compliant" than IE 6?
:-(

Anyway, the prob with that .MOV File is nothing to do with IE not
being "Standards compliant" it's simply the fact that it (the .MOV
File) is Encoded using a different *Version* of the Apple QuickTime
thingy than many people will have currently.

When IE sees an Apple QuickTime .MOV File on a Web Page (specified
as it is, using an Tag & an Tag) & when the File
itself is Served up by the Web Server (as it is) with the Correct
MIME Type Header of...


Content-Type: video/quicktime


Then Internet Explorer just Loads up the Apple QuickTime ActiveX
Control - PlugIn (as specified in the "classid" Attribute of the
Tag), or it just hands the File straight to the ordinary
QuickTime Player, if you use a direct URL to the File...

But the prob is that that particular File just doesn't Play in either
the Apple QuickTime ActiveX Control or the ordinary Apple QuickTime
Player, unless the person viewing it happens to have the correct
Version of the Codec for it Installed.

That's nothing whatsoever to do with Internet Explorer not being
"Standards Compliant" - it's an Apple QuickTime problem.
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