iPodding

Anyone in here have an iPod and do this?

Rabbit...

Apple have just cut the price too and just after the C*******s sale rush.

datasmog...

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That's the Shuffle range. The speculation is the Shuffle will soon be
discontinued in favour of the iPod Nano, which covers a similar storage
range and price point but with a screen.

Rabbit...

Ah right, but it would have been a nice CS gesture it they had cut the price
before C******s

datasmog...

It's called commerce. Apple are not alone in this practice.

Rabbit...

Can't argue with that. Nintendo is notorious for similar actions with their
consoles and games.

They are in the fortunate position of being able to sell just about
everything they make, especially iPods.

Rabbit...

AFAIK ( and if it's true I'll give them their due) at least they don't
subscribe to the *rip off Britain* style of commerce 'cos I believe their
iPods are a similar price everywhere, well at least they don't convert from
$xx to Łxx like so many things ( Levi jeans, CDs, DVDs etc)

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pmj...

Yes, I have a Portable MP3 Player, but it's not an Apple iPod
(It's one of the early Archos GMini xs200 - with 20GB Hard Disk)

*Any* MP3 Player can be used for listening to stuff, (not just Music,
but anything that you can get into MP3, (or with some makes such as
Archos .WMA .WAV & various other formats as well) it doesn't have
to be an iPod!
:-)

I've just been hearing all about this way of listening to recorded radio
progs via one's iPodon Sky news. I am definitely going to try this out.

datasmog...

You have an iPod?

Aries...

Yes, erm well, I bought it for Tony - it's his iPod really but I do all the
downloading

Did you miss the the list of Podcasts in iTunes?

Aries...

yes :(

There is a comprehensive list built in and you can easily add more via
rss feeds or manually.

Aries...

I will now take a look at that, ta :)

These other applications do the same thing with the exception that they
support other players as well as the iPod.

Aries...

right, understood :)

pmj...

Yep!
& Troy's Human may be interested to know this...

Troy's Human...

I download radio programmes using "Net Transport"

Takes about 1 minute for a 1 hour programme. I can then listen at my

pmj...

Yep!
:-)
But the actual time taken to Download them depends on the BitRate
used for the encoding. (& of course on your Download Speed & the
Speed of the Server)

convenience. Thinking of getting a mp3 player and would then have to
convert from ra to mp3

pmj...

Yep.

What do you use to download the ra files ?

Aries...

I don't - I haven't, not yet, but I would like to download some of the live
concerts for Tony that are sometimes broadcast on Radio 3.

So you recommend Net Transport. I thought I could prolly do it via Real
Player

Troy's Human...

Naah - I don't think so (I'm sure pmj will correct me if I'm wrong).

pmj...

You're right.
Yo ucan't Real Player is expressly designed *not* to allow you to
Save the stuff that it's Playing.

Real Player can be used to "Listen again" or "Listen live" to BBC radio. To

pmj...

Yep.
The whole idea of the .RA (Real Audio) Format, developed by
RealNetworks.com is that it's a *Streaming* Format & isn't designed
to be "Downlaoded" (unlike MP3 etc)

That is cos it was designed as a primitive form of "Content
Protection", in the early days of Distributing stuff over the
Internet.

actually download files you need the URL - e.g. for "Sounds of the 60's" on
Radio 2 it's :-

rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio2/soundsixties.ra

pmj...

Notice the "rtsp://" Protocol there?

That's "Real Time Streaming Protocol"

IE or Firefox won't do it (try it) - they'll just play the programme for

pmj...

Yep, they hand the "rtsp://" URL to the RealPlayer Plug-In.

You need independent (3rd Party) things such as Streambox to actually
*Download* .RA Streams.
& they can do it not just in "Real Time", bu tmany times faster than
Real Time!
:-)

you.

Net Transport will *download* the file to your HDD and you can *then*
listen to it at your convenience using Real Player - rather than listening
again from the BBC site.

Do have a play and let me know how you get on :-)

pmj...

Yep, it's all useful stuff.

You can *also* (again, using 3rd Party stuff) Convert .RA Real Audio
Files to other Formats, such as .WAV &/or MP3.

The Streambox Ripper Utility can do that.

(but it does need to have the Real Networks CoDec (that comes with
RealPlayer) on the Machine to do it)

Aries...

Okey Dokey - I see it's a trial prog tho. Have you purchased it?

Troy's Human...

Yes but only after I'd tried the trial - it does everything.

*Do* have a play with the trial :-)

Aries...

I will download it now :)

Troy's Human...

And then Try a "New Download" using the URL I gave earlier - just as a
test.

If it works I'll try to explain how to get other BBC radio URLs :-)

Possibly free progs that do the same thing - I don't know :-)

pmj...

Streambox VCR 1.0 Beta 31 SMF+Turbo
Excellent, it is!!!

It can Download *Multiple* Real Audio (& also .WMA) Streams in Parallel!
:-)

Even "The Archers" (which I don't actually Listen to, as he
knows) but some people do.
:-)

You can Download stuff (from various Sites - Internet Radio Stations
& dedicated "Podcast type Sites as well).
Sometimes it comes as .MP3, so can be Played Directly & with Formats
such as .RA (Real Audio), you need to Download it & then Convert
it first

pmj...

Good idea!
:-)

More details here -

also look at the other links on the right hand side of the page.

noreen...

I have my Mp3 for all my music , i love it , they are ideal if you are
travelling ,or i listen while i am
in the house working.
Don't seem to be able to open those links Val ! ;-)

uker...

Thank you I'm listening to : -
Oldies RadioNET 128 kbps Your all-time oldies favourites -

noreen...

Just been there , nice site will have another look later;-))))

Aries...

Oh??? they open OK for me, just re tested em

noreen...

Got them now ! don't know why they wouldn't before Ta ;-))))

pmj...

Of which Page?
The first Link or the 2nd one?
:-)

Aries...

First one