Hey FN

Yep! Hic!!

West Stand Bowler...

Good luck for next season in the Premiership, and very well done your team.

Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +...

Ta WSB - but I think it'll be a lot more than luck they'll need.

Rabbit...

S'cuse me hignorance but is this a footie team being discussed ? Is it a

Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +...

Yes

Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +...

Yes

Sheffield one? Is it the one Plusnet sponsor ?

Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +...

No. We're talking Sheffield United. Who play in Red/White striped shirts:

Sheffield Wednesday are sponsored by Plusnet.

It was at Sheffield Wednesday's ground where the Liverpool fans disaster
was, but we started the thread by mentioning the Sheffield United promotion
to the Premiership this weekend.

Rabbit...

OK thank you for the edumacation. I was just concerned that if it was the
Plusnet one they might have wanted more money from us if their team was
going places, or would that have been *evolving* :-)

Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +...

I would be more concerned about the supposed link withe Tiscali rather than
Sheffield Wednesday, who incidentally are almost in danger of being

Rabbit...

True, true. I know it's a different branch but mud sticks to a name as H.
Samuels ( to name but one) discovered a few years ago :-)

relegated this season. Looks like they might just avoid the drop now, but
it was touch and go for a bit.

Do you know which player playing for which team scored the first ever goal
in the Premiership?

Answer: Brian Deane for Sheffield United against Manchester United on
15/08/1992.
And I was there. :)

JoeH...

I thought you might be :))

Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +...

It would have possibly been better if we'd have clinched it by a resounding
victory on Tuesday evening against Leeds though. Our main objectives

JoeH...

...but it could have been worse too.......

At least now it's not in doubt.

Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +...

Well if Leeds had won their last 4 matches by 2 - 0, and we'd lost ours by
the same score, I think they would just have beaten us on goal difference,
but I doubted that would happen anyway. :)

have always been to beat Sheffield Wednesday (which weve done twice this
season) and Leeds United. Promotion's an acceptable by-product though. :)

Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +...

PS. You wouldn't believe the size of the crowd at Hillsborough this
afternoon to watch Wednesday's match against Norwich. More than 30,000 and
that's for a relegation battle in, what I still regard as, the old second
division. There's many premiership teams that would envy a crowd like
that.

MCC...

Don't forget this is the 17th anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster

Rabbit...

I didn't realise it was *that* long ago.

Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +...

Tempus definitely fugits much faster these days. Although I thought the
Bradford City Football stand fire was longer ago than 1985:

Rabbit...

There's also the forgotten one

Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +...

I remembered that. I see Jimmy Johnstone was mentioned in the blurb too.
You realise that he signed for Sheffield United in 1975 and scored a few
goals for us.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/january/2/newsid_2478000/2478305.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/bradford_city/4506597.stm

Pam the goose...

Yes, it was.

I was driving the Band's Transit going across the Pennines and when we got
out the other end the traffic was horrendous, ambulances, police cars, fire
engines were racing to and fro through Sheffield.

I forget where we were going but the journey was filled with the boss
telling me to pull into pubs so he could find out at first what had gone on
and then, as we journied on, how they were getting on. And then, when we got
to the gig the boss (and us!) had to behave as though nothing had happened.
Actually he couldn't ignore it and we started the evening before we went
into Roll Out the Barrel with a minute's silence for the follk involved. It
was an RAF Officers' Mess and I seem to think it was in Lincolnshire but I
may be wrong. At the end of the evening some high ranking occifer
congratulated the Baron on his minute's silence, he said it allowed his lot
to enjoy themselves when they had been wanting to cancel.

It was a horrible day. And one which despite that bleeding brain I can
recall in detail.

Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +...

How could I forget Mike, I live less than a mile away and know some of the
police and volunteers who were involved in the rescue and aftercare of the
families. They will be scarred for ever by it.

MCC...

I just thought that the fact that it was the anniversary may have meant a
larger than normal crowd. I'm not suggesting for a minute that you had

Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +...

Nope! I don't think the Liverpool tragedy - 'cos that's what it was - would
affect the SWFC home crowd one little bit.
We have a small memorial garden in Hillsborough Park ("You'll never walk
alone" is above the wrought iron entrance gates), but I think the only
ones in Sheffield who will really remember it, are those who were directly
involved with the aftermath, and not the local footie fans.
I remember sitting in my village pub late that evening, trying to cosole a
friend (he was a local PC), who was one of the first to realise that there
was a problem. He dragged several of the young Liverpool supporters out
from the terrace and administered the kiss os life, and got some breathing
again, before diving in to drag out more. He was distraught because some
he had revived had subsequently died because there was no immediate follow
up care. As you can imagine he was in tears. I also remember many
months later the disgust he had for some colleagues who tried to claim
financial gain from the supposed traumatic stress they had suffered that
tragic everning.

forgotten ;-)

It's also the anniversary of the sinking of the Titanic.

Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +...

Is that relevant?

MCC...

Obviously it has nothing to do with Sheffield, Hillsborough, Liverpool or
anything else.
What I was trying to say, in my clumsy way, was that April 15th was not a
good date ;-)
Dunno though, it was the day my Dad was born - he would have been 99
yesterday. Sadly he died aged only 61.

Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +...

So if it hadn't been for April 15th 1907, you wouldn't have been here to
discuss it I suppose. LOL

Not a good day.

Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +...

Agreed, but I guess that there wre some really good things happening on
that day elsewhere in the world over the years, even though they were
never publicised..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster